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Post by Gryx on Jul 13, 2015 22:22:16 GMT -5
YOU KNEW IT WAS COMINGTHE WEEK OF SARDONYX!! STEVENBOMB 3!!
RUBY AND SAPPHIRE ARE GAY AS HELL!! SAPPHIRE HAS ONE EYE!!! WOOO
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Post by Jaye on Jul 14, 2015 8:20:17 GMT -5
Argh yes loved it. Also it possibly helps add fuel to my fusion-theory that different 'deformities' mean different things about the single gems relationship with each other? (My main thing is that multiple sets of eyes means that the fusing-gems "don't see eye to eye" which I feel gets bonus points for being a pun.) I adored Sardonyx. She was great and fantastic and a beautiful insight into Pearl, Garnet, (Ruby & Sapphire's relationship) and into how the gems feel about Garnet. But also she was just great and fantastic on her own (uh on her 'own'). The subtext was also amazing like woah seriously every allosexual adult (and probs at least some teens/ace-specs) picked up on that subtext as clearly as if it was text. But no really this was a beautiful episode and I'm so glad a show felt comfortable ending on a downer like that without being a two-parter it's really beauitful. But, especially beautiful as a kids' show? I mean things don't always get fix. You can't always mend a friendship - and even if you can you might have to wait before even starting to mend things. It's good that kids' are getting shown this. { Click to here stuff about who I voted for in the poll!}So I chose Steven because he's marginally my favourite gem out of the list. Honestly I kinda like all the gems - and all the humans (and... all the half-humans-half-gems) pretty equally. They're all such great character's and that's what I like. Also if we're not counting fusions, should Garnet not be on that list? Actually my favourite gem - and if Steven counts then this gem counts - is Stevonnie! They are my favourite character in the show. Not by much, but they are.
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Post by ING on Jul 14, 2015 9:01:31 GMT -5
As always while the episode was good, it felt rushed and the ending was as typical very abrupt and had an air of un-finished-ness too it. If this show doesn't have a thirty minute runtime, it needs one. If it does have a thirty minute runtime? i have no idea what it's doing with it, because it's certainly not spending it on pacing.
i can't remember the details, but i read once something about the eyes and arms thing of fusions representing how much they were of one mind. Eyes for example representing goals, in Opal's case both Amathest and Pearl had one goal: Save Steven. Arms on the other hand, represent how in-synch the gems are together, Garnet only has two arms because ruby and sapphire know eachother so much, but the personalities of pearl, amatheyst, and garnet are so different, that their respective fusions would almost always have four or more arms. Stepphanie being another example of this, the goal was to have fun, so she only has two eyes. and they're so alike that she only has two arms
also liked the all-but-confirmation that Fusions are completely separate individuals from their component gems, Sardonyx all but stated that she wasn't just Pearl and Garnet working together, but just Sardonyx, to the point of referring to Pearl and Garnet in the third person, as if they were separate entities from herself, which they are.
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Post by Gryx on Jul 14, 2015 14:07:26 GMT -5
loved loved loved sardonyx- she's one of my faves. her voice and mannerisms are adorable And i included Garnet because yes, she is a fusion, but she's not one of the "giant woman" fusions that only get a few minutes of screentime- we didn't even know until jailbreak. the main reason is i was planning on a later poll about favorite fusions, though. as for the pacing, i've gotten used to it to be honest. they really should extend it to 30 mins, but at the rate that they crank out episodes, it's pretty impressive. but i don't have cable so i'm not sure how they work with just 11 minutes? since each show block is 30 minutes, that would mean around 20 minutes of commercials, or 2 episodes back to back (which they dont do on stevenbombs.)
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Post by Jaye on Jul 14, 2015 21:04:23 GMT -5
As always while the episode was good, it felt rushed and the ending was as typical very abrupt and had an air of un-finished-ness too it. If this show doesn't have a thirty minute runtime, it needs one. If it does have a thirty minute runtime? i have no idea what it's doing with it, because it's certainly not spending it on pacing. I... have no idea what you're talking about with pacing. For an 11minute show they do a pretty great job. They do a better job than a lot of 30min shows do. I am kinda curious about how it works on TV, though (I am out of country and lacking cable thus I have no idea). The episode did have an abrupt ending but - that was really nice to see? I guess YMMV but it didn't feel rushed or unfinished to me at all. It was just kind of... "Whelp. No good ending here. May as well end it. «shrug»" Which Steven's line at the end reinforced rather well. It maybe felt a tinsy bit rushed in that certain scenes weren't all that long - the repeat scenes of Sardonyx weren't that long nor was the Sugilite scene, and I'm fairly certain that was because of time constraints (though Sugilite might've been because of her voice actor's availability ) but it wasn't bad, really. It got the point across - extending those scenes would've been indulgence more than anything. i can't remember the details, but i read once something about the eyes and arms thing of fusions representing how much they were of one mind. Eyes for example representing goals, in Opal's case both Amathest and Pearl had one goal: Save Steven. Arms on the other hand, represent how in-synch the gems are together, Garnet only has two arms because ruby and sapphire know eachother so much, but the personalities of pearl, amatheyst, and garnet are so different, that their respective fusions would almost always have four or more arms. Stepphanie Stevonnie (I'd ask if your phone autocorrected it but it has two P's so...?) being another example of this, the goal was to have fun, so she only has two eyes. and they're so alike that she only has two arms also liked the all-but-confirmation that Fusions are completely separate individuals from their component gems, Sardonyx all but stated that she wasn't just Pearl and Garnet working together, but just Sardonyx, to the point of referring to Pearl and Garnet in the third person, as if they were separate entities from herself, which they are. (I thought we already had all-but-confirmation of this? No wait I thought we had confirmation with Garnet's fusion speech? "You are an experience"?) I think I read the same thing you did. There was a theory about it floating around on tumblr. I disagree with the 'goals' thing as that seems really specific to the situation. But I do like the idea that different abnormalities mean different variations in relationships. Can't wait for the next one to get put online.
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Post by Gryx on Jul 14, 2015 21:46:06 GMT -5
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Post by Jaye on Jul 14, 2015 22:05:09 GMT -5
Oh well it is now «grumbles about my site not having them up» Actually I think I checked it like, an hour after it aired? So fair enough. «watches»
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Post by ING on Jul 15, 2015 7:43:27 GMT -5
would it have killed them to have ruby just explode and yell at the top of her lungs at some point? all that muttering and struggling for the right words just felt like she was bottling up a lot of anger right there, and without a satisfying release to it it just feels hollow and unfufiled.
like... after the diner scene, when steven ruby and sapphire are leaving, have the two gems get into a breif arguement, like, "Calm down" "i will not calm down!" "Nothing will change untill you calm down" "i do not NEED to calm down" "You are only making it worse for yourse-" "I AM PERFECTLY CAAAAAAAAAAAAALM!" Ruby clenches her fists, screams at the top of her lungs, the camera shakes a bit, maybe a breif scene of someone far away reacting, and THEN sapphire starts crying.Ruby's pent up stress is released, she feels better, and immidiately starts appologizing to sapphire. Bam, better scene all around.
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Post by Gryx on Jul 15, 2015 11:39:41 GMT -5
i feel this! i REALLY REALLY wanted ruby to yell or shout at some point- her VA speaks in a whisper tone a lot, and it seemed off at times. not to say it wasn't a good episode- i really like greg, and he got some good lines in this episode ("if i'm not back in an hour, call the police" is my fave) as well as pearl actually starting to voice her remorse at the end. i kinda feel like some really heavy stuff is coming, though, because we have 3 episodes to go, and they wouldn't randomly end the conflict on the 2nd episode. i think.
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Post by Jaye on Jul 15, 2015 19:31:40 GMT -5
would it have killed them to have ruby just explode and yell at the top of her lungs at some point? all that muttering and struggling for the right words just felt like she was bottling up a lot of anger right there, and without a satisfying release to it it just feels hollow and unfufiled. like... after the diner scene, when steven ruby and sapphire are leaving, have the two gems get into a breif arguement, like, " Calm down" "i will not calm down!" "Nothing will change untill you calm down" "i do not NEED to calm down" "You are only making it worse for yourse-" "I AM PERFECTLY CAAAAAAAAAAAAALM!" Ruby clenches her fists, screams at the top of her lungs, the camera shakes a bit, maybe a breif scene of someone far away reacting, and THEN sapphire starts crying.Ruby's pent up stress is released, she feels better, and immidiately starts appologizing to sapphire. Bam, better scene all around. You didn't think that Ruby was frightening enough? I don't know if this was why, or if there were other reasons, but her expressing her rage was already pretty scary. I don't mean horror scary (or... cat fingers scary) I mean any kid who's parents yell or any kid who went through/are going through a messy divorce are already scared of Ruby - no matter if she flat out yelled and shouted. (Seriously, struck a cord very deep). Also, she did yell? What about "I'm an eternal flame, baby!"? I guess it would've been satisfying to see her shout some more, but she was having a very realistic and familiar reaction to her own rage. She hadn't been recently provoked, after all. This is long simmering rage after it's already boiled over. She's just still feeling hurt and Ruby is the kind of person that converts hurt into rage. So she's hurt and thus enraged but she's so hurt that she's got almost too much and she doesn't know what to do with it all. (Ruby is part of the person that said "I thought violence might be the answer", after all). She doesn't actually want to hurt Pearl - not more than her silent treatment is already doing. Pearl betrayed and hurt her but they're still allies (if not friends). And she cares about everyone else (Steven, Greg, Sapphire) to really hurt any of them - hence why she tried to apologise and take it all back when Steven got obviously upset and when Sapphire then got upset. So she's got all this energy and rage but there's nothing safe to unleash it at so she can't just let go and let it all out. Idk. This one had a lot of familiar shit from my life. Resonated well and I bet there's a lot of kids thankful for it.
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Post by Jaye on Jul 15, 2015 20:38:59 GMT -5
The fucking mouse at the end of the latest episode! xD
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Post by Cie on Jul 15, 2015 23:29:58 GMT -5
Onion is creepy, as always. I died from a mix of terror and laughter while watching that episode...
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Post by ING on Jul 16, 2015 9:50:50 GMT -5
[Also, she did yell? What about "I'm an eternal flame, baby!"? To be honest it sounded more like a moderately annoyed talk rather then an angry yell, it was just too quiet and constrained, funny though it was.
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Post by Silvy on Jul 16, 2015 11:47:09 GMT -5
i love onion tbh he's so precious like... he just wants to be stevens friend man......... *weeps into onion doll* HE JUSTWANTS TO BE FRIENDS
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Post by ING on Jul 16, 2015 14:07:26 GMT -5
He's still a creepy little whatevertheheckyellowtailis
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Post by Gryx on Jul 16, 2015 15:16:15 GMT -5
a lot of people think Onion is very heavily coded/implied to be autistic- only talks to his mom, doesn't like eating food, has his own odd way of doing things- which i don't think is creepy at all! i thought he was quite cute.
also amedalia is my new otp \o/ i looooove them
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Post by Jaye on Jul 16, 2015 21:33:33 GMT -5
What Gryx said, with a side serving of "And thus it's actually kinda disturbing that people keep saying this autistic coded kid is 'creepy' or 'not-human' because of said kid's signs of autism."
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Post by ING on Jul 16, 2015 23:03:42 GMT -5
i dunno, i might have just grown out of it too much but i'm autistic myself and i don't really see any autistic tendancies in him, idk. Could be that i have aspergers/high functioning autism, thus being "less autistic" then say the rainman, and potentually onion in this case, but i know i never put mice into my mouth, watched movies of my own birth, or ran over ketchup packets with a scooter before crashing into a car and starting a burning inferno of terror.
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Post by Moike on Jul 17, 2015 0:19:34 GMT -5
dude, he jipped steven from his money once. if that kids autistic then every con artist is autistic
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Post by Gryx on Jul 17, 2015 21:50:44 GMT -5
i never said stealing was autistic behavior broe. neither did i count it.
anyhoo, PERIDOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WOW!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Jaye on Jul 17, 2015 22:20:10 GMT -5
Ah ha Peridot being lame and hilarious as usual. She's such a hamfisted villian it's so great. Also
"Um, this is Amethyst, and I don't appreciate being called a clod you clo[d]."
Hee hee.
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